REQUEST Giulia Innocenzi, PRIMARY CANDIDATE TO YOUNG DEMOCRATS
Gentile Organization of the PD,
I must point out that so far I have not received any informations from the Party about the counting of votes , nor any indication as to which was the method adopted for the collection of votes (and why we're putting so much time). Www.giovanidemocratici.org on no news, I could read some data provisional only through the agencies.
I would request Internet publication of the cities already counted and official results. So, besides getting the information myself as a candidate for the electoral outcome, the thousands of kids who have worked for the electoral process can obtain the involvement they deserve. Already on Saturday, in fact, came out statements by representatives of GIiovani the PD, as the shadow minister Pina Picierno or given to the candidate winning Fausto Raciti, further reinforcing the hiking excursions of the other candidates.
Sincerely,
Giulia Innocenzi
BROGLIO REPORTED BY GIULIA
Roberto wrote @ November 21st, 2008 at 6:19 pm
Seat Gregna Via Cave, 56 V Municipio Roma
The only regional candidate who was a scrutineer to every person who said he was approached Raciti write the name of the country. the urn was for the regional wood and there was no space to write in peace without being seen.
are fake primary, however democratic it stirred something, many people are rianimat because of your job.
good luck!
valeria wrote @ November 21st, 2008 at 6:39 pm
up three seats in the sixth reported hall I found one, moreover, no where had to be!
and voted with everyone else, as it lacked even a minimal down to make the secret ballot.
Luigi wrote @ November 21st, 2008 at 8:24 pm
absolutely condemn the irregularities of the primaries in Pescara. Have been reported in three of six seats but have not found anyone. Even the central headquarters of the PD (which I imagined in turmoil since announced only three hours of activity) is closed and deserted.
alessandro wrote @ November 21st, 2008 at 9:17 pm I
I voted ..
no irregularity in Rieti ..
force giulia!
chaff wrote @ November 21st, 2008 at 9:18 pm in Rieti
too ..
all quiet ..
my vote for you .. a useful vote!
domenico wrote @ November 21st, 2008 at 9:53 pm
http://www.casertanews.it/public/articoli/200811/art_20081121183924.htm
James wrote @ November 21st, 2008 at 9:58 pm Hello
giulia, today I voted for you have to wisdom as a student I was in Rome and faculty 'to study, and oanche because I have seen this in my seat on the town hall, the' VIII.
I just say that those who voted voted leaning against a table, without a hint of secrecy, the ballot boxes and cardboard boxes were quite precarious among other things ... oh well I hope anyway
fit a hug
wrote @ LUCIANO November 21st, 2008 at 10:15 pm
THE PRIMARY OF PD IN NAPLES ARE FALSE, the lists of candidates do not know and do not know who CAN 'MAKE SURE ENOUGH TO VOTE, the seats have been set only two days before the same primary and many seats are fake
Michele wrote @ November 22nd, 2008 at 12:16 am
in my seat, so good. Of the 76 voters have had 36 different preferences. Not bad, de vo say. And I am very satisfied. Not yet rated challenged plus.
Good luck: incorciatore fingers for you
Luke wrote @ November 22nd, 2008 at 2:41 am
In the seat held by your supporters in Milan near the Liceo Virgilio, there was only a list of your candidates radicals. on the table where to vote, ahead of President and tellers, no privacy. To my question "but there are other candidates for the Assembly," The answer was "NO, even if those votes do not cancel the card ...
beautiful regularity ...
stefano wrote @ November 22nd, 2008 at 5:36 am I
I have voted 7 times ...
Francis wrote @ November 22nd, 2008 at 7:09 am
votes? more than anything else ... a farce!
ballots put in boxes of shoes that were continually being opened and read ... .. move remittances in wet ... dry ... whoever put those hands to the seat .... ... Anyone who went could participate in the activity.
had nothing to do with a legal vote, democratic and civil
Francesco Rende (Cs)
SerenaDS wrote @ November 22nd, 2008 at 9:08 am
In Pescara you do not vote, copincollo 2 messages who has tried, as a forum RI:
messaggioinviato: Fri November 21, 2008 17:46 Terrible
in Pescara, hard to find the polling stations. On the site there are http://primariegd.ilcannocchiale.it/ precise addresses and opening hours. In the main square of town tonight there is not even a shred of gazebo. (Much more visible signatures collected radicals)
Tonight I'll go to the Election Committee (half an hour machine) which should be open from 20 to 23 and hope to succeed in a vote on the Innocenzi.
L. Milardi
denounce the absolute irregularity of the primary in Pescara. Have been reported in three of six seats but have not found anyone. Even the central headquarters of the PD (which I imagined in turmoil since announced only three hours of activity) is closed and deserted.
L. Milardi
CIELLE of Marco wrote @ November 22nd, 2008 at 9:46 am
Dear Luke, the seat in front of Virgil was not held by supporters of Julia, but three guys who have volunteered (the fact that my teammates studies and does not imply that they have friends my own political views). The candidate lists were displayed in plain sight, as I have confirmed several witnesses. If we want to talk about the seat in front of the Polytechnic ...
Gaja wrote @ November 22nd, 2008 at 10:24 am
In my case, the irregularity of the polling is that there was not even a seat!
Studio in Trento and think they can vote here, but I did not find any seat in the entire Trentino-Alto Adige ... it's really unacceptable!
Gaja
Zeno wrote @ November 22nd, 2008 at 10:43 am
I speak from Bologna. The mobile polling station at the Liceo Sabin has opened a one-hour restrictions and delays, his seat in the square was green ghost. Some of my friends told me the seat in the circle of PD via Murri was closed before 20:00, and was to remain open until 23:00. I lost marks on the timing for these messes.
Carlo Del Nero wrote @ November 22nd, 2008 at 11:06 am A Mass
my two sons went to the table to sign at 20:00 (time was 23.00), but the table had already been removed and not there was none.
I phoned the town clerk of the Democratic Party that gave me the phone number of the youth in charge of elections.
I called and told me I could vote by phone. So I have provided statements and voted (by me) to Julia over the phone.
hello
Carlo
Carlo Del Nero wrote @ November 22nd, 2008 at 11:08 am
ops! VOTE for not to sign ... radicalacci sti!
Fabio wrote @ November 22nd, 2008 at 11:17 am
Here in Quartu (Cagliari province) it seemed that everything was pretty smooth ... when I went to vote, there were only a few young volunteers candidates. Nobody offered me anything and no one asked me anything (except of course ... ah sure the document also pence 1euro) Maybe you could strain a little more on the front of the secrecy of the vote since the cabin was in pseudo- middle of the room and say "little blanket." future will be better ... Oh well, the important was iniziare.FORZA GIULIA!
Ah .. When you know the results?
Hello, hugs
Bino wrote @ November 22nd, 2008 at 12:02 pm
Voted the circle of PD 99 Via Murri, Bologna, no irregularities.
Bino wrote @ November 22nd, 2008 at 12:03 pm
... but did not ask me no documents or the euro ...
Salvatore wrote @ November 22nd, 2008 at 12:25 pm
I posted this comment in previous post but it seems to me that here is more appropriate:
I would point out here, since the primary site is mysteriously out of order, that the throne of Naples - San Carlo district - is closed, presenting the seat (a seat Arci / Pd) tell you that the elections are "postponed" postponed?! but at the national level or only in this seat? "No, no, only here." Mah
I know so much about the boycott. But even if it were not so, how disgusting organization.
This afternoon I'll try to go to another seat. Are there too I will say the same thing my disappointment will be complete and, I fear, ultimately.
The other seat there.
Bella evidence, however, of all. That there were playacting and waste books to help Raciti was fairly predictable, although regrettable, but there are also encouraging the candidates as Julia, whose flag was that of legality ' I think the caves. Vote for your phone? Are you kidding??
vittorio wrote @ November 22nd, 2008 at 24:44 pm For
Gaja
in Trentino Alto Adige, I voted in a gazebo set up in Piazza Trento Pasi.
No irregularities, indeed very helpful.
V
Luigi wrote @ November 22nd, 2008 at 24:51 pm A vote
online mo 'survey would have been much more credible than this farce.
James wrote @ November 22nd, 2008 at 12:52 pm
sincerely to read all these things I believe that these primary prprrio have done very carelessly voted to wisdom ... I am a student and then when No I would not even be able to vote because polling stations were only university for off-site ... No I have not even asked if I was an off-site
... bah, giulia ... but hopefully get a good result it deserves!
Anonymous wrote @ November 22nd, 2008 at 1:04 pm
PD: PRIMARY YOUNG, PRESIDENT SEAT, Seizure URNS
(ANSA) - Cosenza, 22 NOV - The chairman of a seat
Cosenza for "election Youth delegates of the Democratic Party, Thomas
Guzzi, claims to have suffered the seizure of ballot boxes with ballot
yesterday for the national secretary and
regional and national assemblies.
"" Around 23.30 - states Guzzi -
while we organized together with the scrutineers for the counting of cards and
"occurred and Mr. John Apa do
arrogant and authoritarian seized and taken away from the seat
three polls. All this "was done for a suspected irregularity"
that no one understands the nature given the fact that the operations
voting had ended at 23 on a regular basis and
discussed how to proceed with the phase of polls ".
"" Apa claimed the kidnapping - goes Guzzi -
an appointment under warranty then I had learned and, therefore,
in an arbitrary manner and is "made fun of our good faith". "
"" The light of what happened - he concludes Guzzi -
me is the suspicion that all this has been put in place to subvert
free, transparent and votes of young people who "played regularly in
seat on September eleventh place". "(Reuters) .
Anonymous wrote @ November 22nd, 2008 at 1:04 pm
Primary Young PD Sellia Marina (CZ) - Candido and Federico (Radical): "No respect for the rules: an open vote before the President's seat! And for the euro? Pay the party "
22/11/2008 -" That things just were not clear we had understood immediately, "says Joseph Candido member of the National Committee of the Italian Radicals," at nine and a half, we went to the polling station and found it closed, in a thin poster board without even an indication of the candidates for national secretary. When finally presented itself we asked someone to hang-occur Giulia Innocenzi and the thing that surprised us most is that it has understood that the secretary of the local unit basis of PD Sellia Marina knew nothing of the fact that, together national and regional delegates, he would also vote for the election of National Secretary of the young PD. And to think that the party had returned to the primary defect in the communication ... ". Candido continues: "But the really puzzling fact was that have to find that they voted in a completely clear of the seat in front of the presidency itself. And when a young democrat asked if he had to make a contribution to the vote, the answer was "no use, pay the party." Federico Valerio concludes the National Committee of the Italian Radicals, "Before Obama and praise to the great American Democratic Party PD ours has a primary task: to legalize! If you want to do the surveys they are not makeshift shops known as primary and then, come on, the euro us ask the children so that, from the start, to choose the party financing the American rather than Italian. " Anonymous wrote @ November
22nd, 2008 at 1:40 pm I signed
Bastianelli Giovanni Bastianelli, who was born in Ottawa (CND) on 22/02/1984, hereby personally observed the following irregularities in the polling station at Piazzale Aldo Moro following:
absence of lists of candidates Constituent Assembly national and regional level, several times and never requests delivered;
absence of official scrutineers;
was allowed to students enrolled at La Sapienza, but residents in Rome to vote in this seat, with the possibility that they also voted in polling stations of their municipality;
not been sent lists of voters off-site workers who have registered online to express their votes at the polling Piazzale Aldo Moro, with the possibility that they also voted at the polling station nearest to their
Flats was not I put an obligation on all voters to hand over € 1 for assistance in other seats, however, was compulsory and those who do not deliver the '€ symbol is not allowed to vote.
certify on myself and on my honor that the foregoing is true,
in faith, John B.
Bastianelli
Grizzanti Salvatore wrote @ November 22nd, 2008 at 1:45 pm
Asti president of the polling station was not there and we did vote for candidates and we have scrutinized, but I have to say honestly. Even at the seat of Nizza Monferrato candidates Hero regulating the same operations of votes here but gave explicit indication to vote Raciti.
luca wrote @ November 22nd, 2008 at 2:16 pm
farsa.Il elections were political message that came out?. Chairmen of the polling showed that people who vote, in which sheets marked Reano mail and cell phone numbers thrown, it was not request the identity card ', in some polling stations in the province of Rome, there was no coordinator who controlled it, the boxes with the cards are still there in my party, anyone could do brogli.Queste primaries have not been publicized by senior pd then imagine if we can repeat contare.Devono be canceled because it was a farsa.Tutti dicono.A vote there went nessuno.Io is a candidate to the Lazio Regional Assembly and the first thing I 'will be resigning, I have a dignity'.
Valentina Leone wrote @ November 22nd, 2008 at 4:57 pm
the seat for the resident students of Rome, and they did not present any list with the names of candidates for the two Houses, there was even a booth Rating: space was used as a corner of the table where there were volunteers from the polls and seat ... just imagine the discretion and privacy .. inoltrepur resident resulting in Lecce, I am certifying that documents were requested my enrollment is and even after my various stresses in which I said that I had with me, I was told that esibissi did not need them ... in theory I could have with me the receipt from the bar next door and nobody was there to investigate that much ...
Norberto Gallo wrote @ November 22nd, 2008 at 7:28 pm So
The site has been cracked by hackers http://www.pdgiovani.it turkish
Muslims ... there is anyone here who has noticed that the thing has a political interest, especially if a radical culture?
Anna wrote @ November 23rd, 2008 at 9:29 am
at 8:00 am, according to the version of the President of the polling and candidate Joseph Domenico Valeria Marino, the seat in p.za Istria was opened in the absence of tellers the first of which, Mario Trifuoggi, arrived as agreed at 8.30 since the official opening was scheduled for 9.00 am.
Upon his arrival, surprise, surprise, there were 42 ballots from voters already included in the list showing the ID card (no signature). Trifuoggi course has been expressed his doubts about the legality of this procedure and the President replied that, in agreement with one of the guarantors, the seat was to be open to 8 (in contrast with the official time). When I was a candidate
I arrived around 10:30 and as soon as I was referred to this license irregularities, I have repeatedly asked the President and the candidate Marino to stop the procedure and proceed with the cancellation of the ballots so far. In the minority and in a climate of tension and propaganda, have been thwarted by both the president and the candidate and his "friends" who have besieged his seat throughout the day, at which point, I turned to Robert Hope, which he is surprised the opposition of the president and his ignorance of the regulation, and encouraged me to stop immediately. Only after a round of phone calls, the President has made it possible to seal the ballot box at 11:35 and start again the procedure. In the same place of the seat (the gazebo) the candidate Marino offended me personally before the passers-by and to the voters.
In the early afternoon reached the regional seat on the guarantor, which he has sought to take away the ballot boxes sealed. Of course, I asked that before the individual cards were marked as a matter of security and certainty. Even here I have found widespread resistance, until more members of the national I have been assured that the appropriate course was to mark those cards to avoid further unrest and accusations. After more than an hour Fano agreed to mark them to 60 cards (rated up to 11.35) were labeled with a "zero" and the signature of the respective regional scrutineer and the Guarantor. Only then sealed the ballot boxes and also marked on the box Trifuoggi and Fano were brought to the regional headquarters of the Democratic Party.
The President has demonstrated a lack of a seat in the management not only to the pressures from many sides, but also for the strict regulation of precariousness "flop" and the interpretations given by the guarantors. Several times we have consulted two guarantors Romans gave different interpretations and guidance on these issues. This at one point led to a climate of detente since everything seemed obviously farcical and quite appropriate for an election process.
Let the specific context of a seat. We voted on a table behind the chair and without partition. Result: very visible marks from prying eyes that are not missed. Throughout the day there was no discretion and no decorum as befits an election process. The "war machine" of the candidate Valeria Marino took his seat in siege throughout the day with his friends gathered under the (small) gazebo that controlled the flow of voters, were standing near the table, gave indications during the same act of the electoral vote and handed leaflets during the voter registration and beyond. Different was the attitude of Daniel Dalessandro, Matthias Bacciardi, John Bastianelli Ciarafoni Diego and even their candidates, who have maintained an attitude of moderation throughout the day and even when their constituents have shown the details of the vote have done discreetly, at a reasonable distance from the place of voting and non produce propaganda leaflets and tickets. Several times the searcher
Mario Trifuoggi (which was the only one throughout the day) has criticized the "friends" of Marino for their reckless conduct and detrimental to the climate of restraint that befits a seat. The President in some (rare) moments endorsed Trifuoggi considerations. He also came to moments of high tension in which the "friends" have moved Marino threats of physical violence and insults to the searcher. We are witnesses to me and the other candidates present at the polling place. This was justified by Marino for the ruffian character of the impetuous voter. The turnout was high, while questionable, since a large number of voters were conducted by Marino and referred to the seat by her "friends" and at the time of registration presented a card table of Luiss, which is not named and therefore can be easily exchanged. The same searching Trifuoggi expressed his doubt about this procedure but to that of the President was lawful.
After the counting we went to the regional headquarters of the Democratic Party. Here I have brought to the attention of a guarantee my statement. I was invited into a room where the ballot boxes had been opened cards canceled. I asked for an immediate vote on a matter of information and transparency. Knowing the orientation of the canceled card is a right as a private citizen and candidate claimed to have performed. But I was told to wait until the general procedure of scrutiny. To date no response yet.
Antonio wrote @ November 23rd, 2008 at 11:32 am A
Pontecorvo (FR), at 10, 00 when I went to vote had voted so many people and many had not signed strange but this has not made even a minimum of row and, moreover, the president of the polling station who told me I had to vote ... ...
E 'a scandal do something
gianfranco Liotta wrote @ November 23rd, 2008 at 11:52 am
I have the answer sure to be able to know, I just look into my crystal ball ...
The lack of coverage and secrecy of voting was also reflected in Catania, where basically it was at the discretion of the chairman's seat.
I would note that until 24 hours prior to the consultation, it had no information the location of the seats, which is why the turnout was penalized.
Gaja wrote @ November 23rd, 2008 at 1:35 pm For
Vittorio (Trento)
'm glad that even in the Trentino has been able to vote and who has been all smooth ... would be useful to inform people: I looked on the site and do not giovanidemocratici.org there was nothing ... how could I know? I do not know how you are now aware of the seat but the fact is that when it comes to elections, the seats should not be concealed ipersegnalati!
luca wrote @ November 23rd, 2008 at 2:22 pm
Civitavecchia Via Friuli
The president of the polling station a friend of a candidate outside Civitavecchia accompanied by a city councilman outside Civitavecchia gave instructions to vote, the coordinator has noticed this but was taken in bad parole.Ci were some errors in counting schede.Le cards were not delivered yet have them.
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